Remington, Marlin and Bushmaster are owned by Freedom Group which is in turn owned by Cerberus Capital Management. "We re-engineered our 200-grain .338 Winchester Magnum bullet with a thinner jacket to encourage upset at long range. Although the thicker case webbing reduced capacity, new powders allow the .338 Marlin Express to achieve velocities similar to the .338 Federal with significantly lower pressures. Heralded as "a new gun especially for American big game," the 1936 carbine featured a "solid frame, 20-inch round tapered special smokeless barrel; proof-tested, crown muzzle; Ballard-type rifling; visible hammer; case-hardened receiver; steel butt plate. Hornady's LEVERevolution ammo has killed cleanly for me to distances that define my normal limit. The trajectory should be flat enough to allow a point blank range in excess of 200 yards. Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? I stopped subscribing to other gun mags because none of the others are impartial exactly because of their advertising. You tell me who was right. metal butt plate,good bore, you can shoot. It shouldnt surprise anyone that pistol caliber lever action carbines are dying off. That said, Ive ordered a Henry Big Boy Steel rifle in .45 Colt. Sighted in at 100 yards [all three] Ive dropped bucks over 200 yards with 2 of them. Even the rear-locking Savage 99 has a high-pressure ceiling as proven by its .243, .308, .358 and .284 chamberings. Today we are looking at a new product from Taurus: the Defender 856 TORO. Big difference. Another attempt was made in 1983 with the .307 Winchester and .356 Winchester, and while rifles in .356 Win. Unfortunately for Marlin, right now Henry occupies the spot that Marlin used to. They didnt do ANY of that. But I repeat.BE CAREFUL before you walk out the door with that Marlin, or you may not like what you see when you get home. YMMV. Its been great on three deer so far. The bad: The top of the bolt looks like it was milled with an angle grinder. Be aware however that older guns may suffer from the Marlin jam that occurs over time due to one well-known wear point. What is the holdup in getting the designs into CAD? The 1895 had a box magazine, but this rifle (a favorite of Teddy Roosevelt's) was heavy, ponderous even, compared to lively Winchester and Marlin carbines. Old machines well maintained are also not a problem. Gone are all versions of the .308 Marlin Express and .338 Marlin Express. I want a lever gun, too, in .38spl/.357mag; but Ive been conflicted over the choices out there. Initially offered in .30-30, .35 Remington, .444 Marlin, .450 Marlin and .45-70 ammunition, the bullets are now available in several other Hornady LEVERevolution loads. When I insisted the gun had a problem the forum admins sent me a private email saying I was kicked off the board. I agree, Michael. 10 Best 6.5mm Rifle Cartridges Available Right Now, Ruger No. Its silky. The 338MXLR features a rubber rifle butt pad, and employs an adjustable folding rear sight with a front sight brass bead and Wide-Scan brand hood. I heard on the radio the other day that cerbus was going to sell freedom group because of the sandy hook murders. Furthermore, the projectile's high ballistic coefficient allows the .338 Marlin Express to maintain velocity to greater distances than big bore lever cartridges such as .45-70, .444 Marlin, or even the high performance .450 Marlin. In fact, at 2,565 fps, the new .338's pointed 200-grain bullet matches the velocity and energy of the .348 Winchester bullet at the muzzle, then quickly leaves it behind. If it has a New York address on it we will not put it on our shelves, but we will order them if so asked. The stock is just plain cheap looking. I have a Freedom Group Marlin, and maybe I am just lucky, but I am 100% satisfied with it in every way. Your integrity would be better served by mentioning Gun Tests (http://www.gun-tests.com/), which goes back a ways, and whose honesty in serving gun owners is beyond reproach. So I thought it would be good to pick me up a .30-30 lever action rifle. Hopefully, similar powder technology can be applied to the development of the .338 Marlin Express. Henry rifles are also beautiful pieces of machinery as well, and always have been. I will test fire it at camp. A few years later Winchester introduced the .358 Winchester on a necked-up .308 case, but loaded it to a maximum average pressure (MAP) of 52,000 cup in order to duplicate the performance of the earlier .348 Win. I got the $2300 figure from their website, and I specifically noted that I was talking about the 1860 Henry reproduction, not their modern lever actions. They have physical samples they can measure for Petes sake. Otherwise our weapons wouldnt have worked then and we would have lost the War. I am an old man and gunsmith who has owned Marlins since the 1970s and can say unequivocally and without any hesitation that the two Marlins I have purchased in the last 2 months, an 1894 in .44 mag and a 1895G in 45-70 are as good if not better than anything I owned 40 years ago. The fact of the matter is that I got a great 357 magnum/ 38 special rifle for $500. The bolt was smooth, trigger about 5lbs (a little heavy for a Marlin, but not bad at all.) Mag. The biggest problem with the new Marlins is the horrible wood with badly pressed in checkering. Because of this, I own a Rossi 92. Im a retired defense industry engineer and have to agree with you about supplying the drawings. Im late to this thread, but heres my relatively recent history/impression with both Marlin and Henry.. Hope Marlin/Remington/Whatever gets their act together. I wanted the 18 barrel because I wanted to keep the rifle handy, without too much loss of muzzle velocity and a consequent losss of terminal ballistics. Nothing showed. EasterBunny said>>>I have made hundreds, if not thousands of parts with no drawings. Since my season with a Marlin .30-30 a few years ago, I've added several lever-action rifles to my rack. Sounds like you guys saved me a great deal of time. The .25-35 and .30-30 chamberings were added in 1895, and the .32 Winchester Special chambering followed in 1902. But God bless them for being made in the country. My nephew has it now, he makes that gun a 3 generation gun. my Ruger M77 .30-06 for deer this fall. So the equipment was so bad they had to move to the Remington factory, but then they took the equipment How did moving benefit the the manufacturing process again? Its trajectory is similar to the .30-06 Springfield.[3]. Extensive loading data for the .338 Marlin Express is not yet available. I just bought last month a Marlin Limited Edition model 1895 in 45/70 Govt. service@guns.com Depend on MUNITIONS EXPRESS to bring you a multitude of money-saving rebates on ammo everyday. I wanted a Marlin but the truth had leaked so naturally I bought a SIG 716. Notify Me When Available. Make sure to watch till the end. But ever since 2007, Remington has not only gone downhill on its own brand, but FG has ruined everything else theyve touched. Anyway, I have friends that say you just got lucky but just got lucky on 3 different models..lol Anyway, from what I have seen, maybe the kinks have been worked out for the most part? WOW, I went to three different gun stores and handled the model 336. All opinions welcome. So here I go again, after plunking down $thousand for a rifle I have not yet fired after 7 weeks! The .338 Marlin Express is a cartridge developed by Marlin Firearms and Hornady. However, simply pointing its bullet can't give it the ballistic coefficient of longer bullets smaller in diameter. They would make no commitments nor agreed to stand behind the product flaws. We made the repairs ourselves, and it took an hour or so of our time, instead of the 2 weeks that everything at Freedom Group companies apparently takes (if youre lucky). Thinking about it. Im not buying the nonsense that Marlin didnt have any drawings. I guess they didnt have any calipers or micrometers either. Hopefully, theyll never have a problem, and I honestly wish them well. Subscriber Services. Ive seen some Marlins that have horrendous fit and finish and thats just what I can see on the outside. The above figures demonstrate that Jack O'Connor's original concept was perfectly valid. The Truth About Guns has done its best to honor, continue and build upon the forums tradition of no-holds-barred product reviews.. I dont know if they were a closeout deal or what, but they were discounted reasonably (by Cabelas standards). Style: R444M. The purchase of Marlin Firearms Co. by Remington Arms Co. was finalized in January 2008, and in 2010 Remington relocated Model 336 production from the old Marlin plant in New Haven to Remingtons New York factory. I no longer have my original 39A but have since bought a 39A that was built in 1954 and a Golden 39A from the early 70s and have added several other models to my Marlin collection. Gone are all versions of the 450 Marlin. NOTE: The innovative LEVERevolution FTX and MonoFlex bullet designs may require a newer magazine follower to provide best possible functioning of the last round out of the magazine in certain guns. Fender and CBS. I am waiting to hear from the custon shop about them making a 1894 in .41 mag. 308 Marlin Express 160 gr FTX - Hornady Manufacturing, Inc It had a problem with the half-cock safety. I got my first look at a prototype rifle in .338 Marlin Express this past summer in Illinois. They also dont come in Stainless. Not any longer. The SKU reduction allowed the factory to focus on the rifles they had a greater ability to produce on a consistent basis, which tended to be the highest-volume offerings. He was not a happy camper. If it was something like a bent barrel, or broken action, then yeah, I would have sent it back. I should have bought the Winchester instead. Scoped it and went to the range. I was flabbergasted! It was money well spent. These articles generated considerable interest among Guns and Shooting readers, but the cartridge was not picked-up by a major ammo manufacturer, at least in its original form. The stock had gaps that I was able to fit a penny into between reveiver and stock. Id be concerned about safety. Sold three 336s due to problems of one sort or another. Really wanted a big bore lever and this was the one. . I would guess the trigger pull to be about 8 lbs. Thanks. The 338 Marlin Express is the first ever long-range, big game levergun specific cartridge to hit the market, and opens a new class of hunting to the levergun." When they say "based loosely on the .376 Steyr," they mean LOOSELY. But do you know how to properly use them? I wonder if it has to do with the fact they are great copy of the savage rifles. They many times can perform very high quality operations with a good operator. After my previous experiences with the Freedom Group, I did not care to submit myself to that kind of abuse again. Truly the ultimate choice for big game out to long range, it's the latest ballistic achievement . Items Per Page: Item Total: (7) 0 - 7 338 Marlin Express Full Length Series I 2 Die Set With Zip Spindle 005-546359 | Hornady $62.35 In Stock 338 Marlin Express Seater Die 044-25438 | RCBS $15.80 In Stock Gussying-up a gun of questionable quality will rescue Marlin from its ten-foot-pole exclusion zone amongst knowledgeable consumers. Four good shots in the 45-70, five if you finagle it. Rifle Review: Petzal Tests the Marlin .338 MXLR | Field & Stream