Fr. Andrew: [Laughter] That we always get! Andrew: The Savior, yes. Fr. (2015). All right, thank you! Fr. Facebook We cannot really begin considering "giants" unless and until we define that vague, genetic, subjective term (and I can think of 5-6 definitions). As they well should! Andrew: Yeah, so we have in our notesbecause everyone loves it when we read from Enochic literature1 Enoch 10:8. So Greek words in the New Testament are treated as these sort of independent entities without reference to what theyre translating, and then that allows you to pack a whole bunch of things in. But were going to talk about the goat for Yahweh first. Photius: Im sorry. Can you hear us? Thats okay. The Very Rev. Okay, so how does? From moment to moment, day to day, we come to experience these realities ever more fully. When he says that Christs blood is going to be upon them and upon their children, thats a blessing! Its never going to catch on. Stephen: Maybe it was once used to cover something. And whats interesting there is people may know that these angelic names that end in -elEl is Godso Gabriel is Gibor-el, the mighty man of God; Michael is Micha-el: who is like God. Andrew: Yeah, and thenand heres the part that everyones waiting forthe goats. So, the sort of subsidiary meanings then of cover, number one, if definition of kefir verbs is cover, then your secondary ones would be like wipe or smear. If youre covering something with something else, like if youre going to cover your roof with pitch or what have you, you would wipe it or smear it in order to cover it; cover a wall with paint. And its interesting: I recently heard a certainhe identifies as a Protestant, but most Protestants would not identify him as a Protestantbiblical scholar talking about atonement, and who tried to read St. Athanasiuss On the Incarnation and just said, I cant tell what hes doing in terms of his In terms of trying to address it in terms of atonement theory. Stephen: Yeah, and St. Johns going to say this has happened. And, one way or another, thats going to kill the goat. These are just a few examples of how Fr. Fr. Fr. So hes not sacrificed to Azazel. Andrew: Yeah! This paper explores a possibility that may not have been previously considered that the wife of Ham (one of the sons of Noah), who was one of the individuals present on the ark, was born from Nephilim stock. What are the actual, original words? They are not sitting down and having hors doeuvres with Azazel. And from that perspective, it just doesnt make sense. Stephen De Young and Ancient Faith Radio, Fr. Fr. Fr. Its not about some abstract concept or mechanism of salvation; its about the ritual that everyone that the people receiving this Gospel would have known, or, if they were coming in from the nations, they would have been told about this: it was part of their inheritance now, because theyre becoming part of Israel. Fr. Stephen writes in the preface, the Orthodox Churchproclaims that its liturgical ritual and way of life are in complete continuity with that of the apostles This book makes that case. Then the books conclusion has a couple pages suggesting that the Eastern Orthodox Church of today is the most faithful continuation of the apostles legacy. What we want is not just to understand salvation but to experience salvation, and understanding the cosmic realities and how we come to participate [in] them, ritually and every other way, is the way that that experience becomes real to us. Well, for first-century Judeans, that is the place of the Battle of Emmaus, and that is related to the Maccabees. Its remembered as being the decisive battle of the American Late Unpleasantness. Andrew: Yeah, so the Temple has to be reconsecrated; it has to be purified. Fr. Fr. This is so cool. Father Stephen De Young's comments on political converts Fr. I had always assumed that the doctrine of the Blessed Trinity took time to develop, and that the apostles wouldnt have been explicit Trinitarians. Stephen, where is that word from? Fr. You can download the paper by clicking the button above. Fr. Are these just religious-sounding synonyms for good things or bad things? Fr. [Laughter] So instead, now, this goat, this completely corrupt goat, has to go outside the camp, the city, outside, back out into the bad place, and its going to Azazel. Fr. Stephen: Yes, well, his most well-known work. So it had this prominence beyond those other books. Andrew: I suspectyeah, thats right. So that spacewe talked last time, when we were talking about the other offerings, that there are sort of concentric circles, and that the closer you get to where God is dwelling So God is dwelling in the holy of holies in the tabernacle, so that is the place where the threat of this corruption is most dire. Stephen: And all the Ethiopians will rejoice because theyre like: [Whispered] Weve got it!. Andrew: Yes, right, so the idea is to take the sins of the people and get them out of the place where sin does not belong. It has to be made holy, set apart again for the use of God alone. I mean, is is a good goat and a bad goat? It is being explicitly pitched as a defense of Eastern Orthodoxy as such. Andrew: There you go: the Day of the Covering. The scholar on Slavonic pseudepigrapha so if you want to get into Slavonic pseudepigraphaand who doesnt?is Andrei Orlov, and hes written a ton, and a lot of its available for free on the internet, if you want to read scholarly journal articles. Fr. Fr. What we reliably know about them is, "Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came into the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. It includes that, but the way that they tell the story is designed to teach you how Christ, in this case, is the fulfillment of what was given in the old covenant. For anyone who leaves the Orthodox faith for Protestantism, this becomes an easy issue to take up and throw stones back at the Orthodox Church. The only time it happens is this, and that animal is not sacrificed. Stephen: Yeah, and a solid 80% of kidding aside, the point you made about it being references to the Day of Atonement is again important. Fr. Fr. The laying hands on someone or something is setting them apart, which means making them holy, sanctifying them for a purpose. Stephen De Young is an Orthodox priest. That doesnt make it not historical. I love it when the fundamental unity between the old and new covenants is shown. And it should inspire us to cry out to the Lord for mercy with gratitude and thankfulness for all that he has done, and then that we would enter into that and to participate in it ourselves. How does God make it happen?. Yeah, so why? So we have again in Leviticus 16 a fair amount of detail describing exactly whats going on. When we say the Johannine literature, were saying St. Johns gospel, but also 1, 2, and 3 John, and the Apocalypse, the book of Revelation: it is found in all of this. Fr. I am coming to understand that the Orthodox view is the correct one. He holds a PhD in Biblical Studies from Amridge University. Andrew: Yeah, they dont lead to salvation. And then, verse 17, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the Prophet, saying: He himself took our infirmities and bore our sicknesses. So Matthew is saying this is now fulfilled, the Suffering Servant passage of Isaiah, by Jesus healing ministry of sickness and demon-possession. Father Stephen De Young, creator of the popular The Whole Counsel of God podcast and blog, traces the lineage of Orthodox Christianity back to the faith and witness of the apostles, which was rooted in a first-century Jewish worldview.The Religion of the Apostles presents the Orthodox Christian Church of today as a continuation of the religious life of the apostles, which in turn was a . Theyre cursing him; hes taking away their sins. Fr. [Laughter] I dont know. Stephen: This goat-spirit of the wilderness is then picked up in a lot of later imagery, probably the most famous being Baphomet, this sort of Satan-figure or devil-figure. Stephen: Right, and through theology that had developed in Latin, they had an idea of what that was supposed to mean, or what it had come to mean theologically, and so they were really translating that. And he arguedone of his most prominent arguments that he repeated again again was that penal substitutionary atonement is the only theory of how it works that has a mechanism of how it worksthats his word. Fr. Stephen holds a Ph.D. in Biblical Studies from Amridge University. Fr. Stephen: Let me add a couple of other things. (more), Descending to Ascend: Prayer as Initiation Into Divine Judgment in the, Mind the Gap: First Principles and Popular Theology, Participants in the Altar: in I Corinthians 10:14-22, Energies of the Trinity: The Energies as Tripersonal Communion in Gregory Palamas, V. S. Soloviev and the Russian Roots of Personalism. We talked a little bit about that. ", Nephilim: The Children of Lilith. Andrew: [Laughter] Right, no, no, no, theres more. All right. It doesnt matter if someone in the back was complaining; it doesnt matter about fake coughing: he had to do a lot of incense, because the incense was covering. Well, weve looked at this one particular ritual, and now we know what it does, and it does the same thing in us, for us, around us, throughout the whole cosmos. Im going to describe this. We experience them in worship, we experience them in our interactions with other people when we show the love of God to them, we experience them in the peace we receive from God, in the actual forgiveness and healing we receive for our actual sins on a day-to-day basis. Stephen: So the whole thing is burned. All right, well, the third half is going to be the shortest half. Instagram, RSS & iTunes Well, the text doesnt actually say how many there were; there were three gifts. Andrew: Right! Andrew: Yeah, so you have two goats I suddenly remember that joke that goes around on Facebook: You have two cows and then it has this list of all these economic systems. Stephen: You can read for yourself. Whats the deal with this super-big day of offering? I think thats a net loss to you, frankly. What is spiritual reality like? The answer is that they had to invent a new religion. Fr. This podcast takes us through the Holy Scriptures in a verse by verse study based on the Great Tradition of the Orthodox Church. Andrew Stephen Damick finish their three-part series on sacrifice. Fr. The Centar za Racionalnu Teologiju/Center for Rational Theology has produced some information regarding Giants in the Bible including that Everybody knows about GoliathAnd the enigmatic Nephilim and that, additionally, there are quite a few more giants and giant races mentioned in the Bible. They also elucidate The name Nephilim etymologically.